{"id":16194,"date":"2023-10-23T15:16:35","date_gmt":"2023-10-23T19:16:35","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/cmcffc.org\/?page_id=16194"},"modified":"2024-03-15T14:08:12","modified_gmt":"2024-03-15T18:08:12","slug":"podcast","status":"publish","type":"page","link":"https:\/\/cmcffc.org\/resources\/podcast","title":{"rendered":"Podcast"},"content":{"rendered":"\t\t<div data-elementor-type=\"wp-page\" data-elementor-id=\"16194\" class=\"elementor elementor-16194\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-5373bdaf e-flex e-con-boxed e-con\" data-id=\"5373bdaf\" data-element_type=\"container\" data-settings=\"{&quot;background_background&quot;:&quot;classic&quot;,&quot;content_width&quot;:&quot;boxed&quot;}\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"e-con-inner\">\n\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-d6951f3 e-flex e-con-boxed e-con\" data-id=\"d6951f3\" data-element_type=\"container\" data-settings=\"{&quot;content_width&quot;:&quot;boxed&quot;}\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"e-con-inner\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-4a7935d elementor-widget elementor-widget-image\" data-id=\"4a7935d\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"image.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t<style>\/*! elementor - v3.14.0 - 26-06-2023 *\/\n.elementor-widget-image{text-align:center}.elementor-widget-image a{display:inline-block}.elementor-widget-image a img[src$=\".svg\"]{width:48px}.elementor-widget-image img{vertical-align:middle;display:inline-block}<\/style>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/cmcffc.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/elementor\/thumbs\/Pod-Logo-White-qe2ces56cgqjsevs8787f01esteqwka6z3gugaul62.png\" title=\"Pod Logo White\" alt=\"Pod Logo White\" loading=\"lazy\" \/>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-7b9f4f4 elementor-widget elementor-widget-elementskit-heading\" data-id=\"7b9f4f4\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"elementskit-heading.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t<div class=\"ekit-wid-con\" ><div class=\"ekit-heading elementskit-section-title-wraper text_center   ekit_heading_tablet-   ekit_heading_mobile-\"><h1 class=\"ekit-heading--title elementskit-section-title \"><span><span>A New CMC:FFC Podcast<\/span><\/span><\/h1><\/div><\/div>\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-b9da276 e-flex e-con-boxed e-con\" data-id=\"b9da276\" data-element_type=\"container\" data-settings=\"{&quot;background_background&quot;:&quot;classic&quot;,&quot;content_width&quot;:&quot;boxed&quot;}\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"e-con-inner\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-cc7a8c5 elementor-widget elementor-widget-text-editor\" data-id=\"cc7a8c5\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"text-editor.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t<style>\/*! elementor - v3.14.0 - 26-06-2023 *\/\n.elementor-widget-text-editor.elementor-drop-cap-view-stacked .elementor-drop-cap{background-color:#69727d;color:#fff}.elementor-widget-text-editor.elementor-drop-cap-view-framed .elementor-drop-cap{color:#69727d;border:3px solid;background-color:transparent}.elementor-widget-text-editor:not(.elementor-drop-cap-view-default) .elementor-drop-cap{margin-top:8px}.elementor-widget-text-editor:not(.elementor-drop-cap-view-default) .elementor-drop-cap-letter{width:1em;height:1em}.elementor-widget-text-editor .elementor-drop-cap{float:left;text-align:center;line-height:1;font-size:50px}.elementor-widget-text-editor .elementor-drop-cap-letter{display:inline-block}<\/style>\t\t\t\t<p>Join hosts Dr. Carrie Wilkens and Rev. Jan Brown in this 6-part series as they explore the complicated, and often life-altering, experience of loving someone struggling with substance use. Jan and Carrie will provide ways to approach the helping process that are grounded in the latest science, and their guests will share how real change happens for a family and the community around them.<\/p><p><em>Rethinking Rock Bottom<\/em> sheds light on the impact shame and stigma have on those struggling and the people who care about them, and provides insights that can help everyone involved find the belonging they need. Check it out at the links below or wherever else you get your podcasts!<\/p>\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-e1c375a e-flex e-con-boxed e-con\" data-id=\"e1c375a\" data-element_type=\"container\" data-settings=\"{&quot;background_background&quot;:&quot;classic&quot;,&quot;content_width&quot;:&quot;boxed&quot;}\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"e-con-inner\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-ab127ce elementor-widget elementor-widget-button\" data-id=\"ab127ce\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"button.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-button-wrapper\">\n\t\t\t<a class=\"elementor-button elementor-button-link elementor-size-sm elementor-animation-shrink\" href=\"https:\/\/podcasts.apple.com\/us\/podcast\/rethinking-rock-bottom\/id1709509368\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<span class=\"elementor-button-content-wrapper\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<span class=\"elementor-button-text\">APPLE PODCASTS<\/span>\n\t\t<\/span>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/a>\n\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-cfcee4a elementor-widget elementor-widget-button\" data-id=\"cfcee4a\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"button.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-button-wrapper\">\n\t\t\t<a class=\"elementor-button elementor-button-link elementor-size-sm elementor-animation-shrink\" href=\"https:\/\/open.spotify.com\/show\/2AR6gU9LRUYzZCxlHr8Y4C?si=0e8a8aea018f437d\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<span class=\"elementor-button-content-wrapper\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<span class=\"elementor-button-text\">SPOTIFY<\/span>\n\t\t<\/span>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/a>\n\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<section class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-50565b29 e-con-full e-flex e-con\" data-id=\"50565b29\" data-element_type=\"container\" data-settings=\"{&quot;background_background&quot;:&quot;classic&quot;,&quot;content_width&quot;:&quot;full&quot;}\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-2ed038d elementor-widget__width-initial elementor-widget elementor-widget-image\" data-id=\"2ed038d\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"image.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<a href=\"https:\/\/beyondaddictionworkbook.com\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"300\" height=\"300\" src=\"https:\/\/cmcffc.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/10\/FINAL-podcast-cover-300x300.jpg\" class=\"attachment-medium size-medium wp-image-16218\" alt=\"\" srcset=\"https:\/\/cmcffc.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/10\/FINAL-podcast-cover-300x300.jpg 300w, https:\/\/cmcffc.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/10\/FINAL-podcast-cover-1024x1024.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/cmcffc.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/10\/FINAL-podcast-cover-150x150.jpg 150w, https:\/\/cmcffc.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/10\/FINAL-podcast-cover-768x768.jpg 768w, https:\/\/cmcffc.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/10\/FINAL-podcast-cover-1536x1536.jpg 1536w, https:\/\/cmcffc.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/10\/FINAL-podcast-cover-2048x2048.jpg 2048w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/a>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-2f2ad87e e-con-full e-flex e-con\" data-id=\"2f2ad87e\" data-element_type=\"container\" data-settings=\"{&quot;content_width&quot;:&quot;full&quot;}\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-78f76fc elementor-widget elementor-widget-heading\" data-id=\"78f76fc\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"heading.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t<style>\/*! elementor - v3.14.0 - 26-06-2023 *\/\n.elementor-heading-title{padding:0;margin:0;line-height:1}.elementor-widget-heading .elementor-heading-title[class*=elementor-size-]>a{color:inherit;font-size:inherit;line-height:inherit}.elementor-widget-heading .elementor-heading-title.elementor-size-small{font-size:15px}.elementor-widget-heading .elementor-heading-title.elementor-size-medium{font-size:19px}.elementor-widget-heading .elementor-heading-title.elementor-size-large{font-size:29px}.elementor-widget-heading .elementor-heading-title.elementor-size-xl{font-size:39px}.elementor-widget-heading .elementor-heading-title.elementor-size-xxl{font-size:59px}<\/style><h2 class=\"elementor-heading-title elementor-size-default\">Episode 1: Focusing on Self-Awareness<\/h2>\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-16002832 elementor-widget elementor-widget-heading\" data-id=\"16002832\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"heading.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t<h2 class=\"elementor-heading-title elementor-size-default\">with Julie Merberg<\/h2>\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-1a3d31a8 elementor-widget elementor-widget-text-editor\" data-id=\"1a3d31a8\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"text-editor.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<p>In Episode 1 we meet Julie, a NYC based mom who reflects on how learning that her son\u2019s anxiety, shame, and pain were hidden motivators to his substance use opened the door for her to find more ways to support and help him reduce his substance use. She discusses remaining connected and reimagining what a healthy life looks like for her son&#8211;with thoughtful ITC insight from Jan and Carrie.<\/p>\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-491afce elementor-widget-elementskit-dual-button-start elementor-widget elementor-widget-elementskit-dual-button\" data-id=\"491afce\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"elementskit-dual-button.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t<div class=\"ekit-wid-con\" >\n                <div class=\"ekit-element-align-wrapper\">\n                    <div class=\"ekit_double_button\">                <a class=\"ekit-double-btn ekit-double-btn-one\" href=\"https:\/\/podcasts.apple.com\/us\/podcast\/rethinking-rock-bottom\/id1709509368\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">\n                    APPLE PODCASTS                <\/a>\n            \n            <a class=\"ekit-double-btn ekit-double-btn-two\" href=\"https:\/\/open.spotify.com\/episode\/6PMvykXtYn0eTz1UZ6EW9Y?si=16b3545e7717451d\">\n                    SPOTIFY                <\/a>\n                  <\/div>\n                <\/div>\n            <\/div>\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/section>\n\t\t<section class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-bc84b52 e-con-full e-flex e-con\" data-id=\"bc84b52\" data-element_type=\"container\" data-settings=\"{&quot;background_background&quot;:&quot;classic&quot;,&quot;content_width&quot;:&quot;full&quot;}\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-70b1594 elementor-widget__width-initial elementor-widget elementor-widget-image\" data-id=\"70b1594\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"image.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<a href=\"https:\/\/beyondaddictionworkbook.com\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"300\" height=\"300\" src=\"https:\/\/cmcffc.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/10\/FINAL-podcast-cover-300x300.jpg\" class=\"attachment-medium size-medium wp-image-16218\" alt=\"\" srcset=\"https:\/\/cmcffc.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/10\/FINAL-podcast-cover-300x300.jpg 300w, https:\/\/cmcffc.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/10\/FINAL-podcast-cover-1024x1024.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/cmcffc.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/10\/FINAL-podcast-cover-150x150.jpg 150w, https:\/\/cmcffc.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/10\/FINAL-podcast-cover-768x768.jpg 768w, https:\/\/cmcffc.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/10\/FINAL-podcast-cover-1536x1536.jpg 1536w, https:\/\/cmcffc.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/10\/FINAL-podcast-cover-2048x2048.jpg 2048w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/a>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-4708dd1 e-con-full e-flex e-con\" data-id=\"4708dd1\" data-element_type=\"container\" data-settings=\"{&quot;content_width&quot;:&quot;full&quot;}\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-6f33aab elementor-widget elementor-widget-heading\" data-id=\"6f33aab\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"heading.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t<h2 class=\"elementor-heading-title elementor-size-default\">Episode 2: The Sibling Perspective\u200b<\/h2>\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-58ba9ce elementor-widget elementor-widget-heading\" data-id=\"58ba9ce\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"heading.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t<h2 class=\"elementor-heading-title elementor-size-default\">with Meg and Stephen\u200b<\/h2>\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-5eb254d elementor-widget elementor-widget-text-editor\" data-id=\"5eb254d\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"text-editor.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<p dir=\"ltr\">Even though siblings often notice substance use before the rest of the family, as peers they lack the tools and perspective to fully recognize what\u2019s happening \u2013 and including parents can feel like a betrayal.<\/p><p dir=\"ltr\">On this episode of \u201cRethinking Rock Bottom,\u201d hosts Dr. Carrie Wilkens and Reverend Jan M. Brown welcome Meg and Stephen, siblings who were very close and then grew apart as substance use played an increasingly complicated role in their relationship. Together they highlight the struggles of Stephen\u2019s substance use, the secrets and burdens that Meg felt she had to carry alone, and why she, as a sibling, did not fully understand or appreciate her role in Stephen\u2019s healing journey \u2013 landing on the hope they have found in their relationship as they have each healed.\u00a0<\/p>\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-0e43372 elementor-widget-elementskit-dual-button-start elementor-widget elementor-widget-elementskit-dual-button\" data-id=\"0e43372\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"elementskit-dual-button.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t<div class=\"ekit-wid-con\" >\n                <div class=\"ekit-element-align-wrapper\">\n                    <div class=\"ekit_double_button\">                <a class=\"ekit-double-btn ekit-double-btn-one\" href=\"https:\/\/podcasts.apple.com\/us\/podcast\/rethinking-rock-bottom\/id1709509368\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">\n                    APPLE PODCASTS                <\/a>\n            \n            <a class=\"ekit-double-btn ekit-double-btn-two\" href=\"https:\/\/open.spotify.com\/episode\/6PMvykXtYn0eTz1UZ6EW9Y?si=16b3545e7717451d\">\n                    SPOTIFY                <\/a>\n                  <\/div>\n                <\/div>\n            <\/div>\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/section>\n\t\t<section class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-f0929ca e-con-full e-flex e-con\" data-id=\"f0929ca\" data-element_type=\"container\" data-settings=\"{&quot;background_background&quot;:&quot;classic&quot;,&quot;content_width&quot;:&quot;full&quot;}\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-644f91a elementor-widget__width-initial elementor-widget elementor-widget-image\" data-id=\"644f91a\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"image.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<a href=\"https:\/\/beyondaddictionworkbook.com\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"300\" height=\"300\" src=\"https:\/\/cmcffc.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/10\/FINAL-podcast-cover-300x300.jpg\" class=\"attachment-medium size-medium wp-image-16218\" alt=\"\" srcset=\"https:\/\/cmcffc.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/10\/FINAL-podcast-cover-300x300.jpg 300w, https:\/\/cmcffc.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/10\/FINAL-podcast-cover-1024x1024.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/cmcffc.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/10\/FINAL-podcast-cover-150x150.jpg 150w, https:\/\/cmcffc.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/10\/FINAL-podcast-cover-768x768.jpg 768w, https:\/\/cmcffc.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/10\/FINAL-podcast-cover-1536x1536.jpg 1536w, https:\/\/cmcffc.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/10\/FINAL-podcast-cover-2048x2048.jpg 2048w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/a>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-d5b1848 e-con-full e-flex e-con\" data-id=\"d5b1848\" data-element_type=\"container\" data-settings=\"{&quot;content_width&quot;:&quot;full&quot;}\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-d2269ec elementor-widget elementor-widget-heading\" data-id=\"d2269ec\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"heading.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t<h2 class=\"elementor-heading-title elementor-size-default\">Episode 3: Grief &amp; Self-Compassion<\/h2>\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-10a1742 elementor-widget elementor-widget-heading\" data-id=\"10a1742\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"heading.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t<h2 class=\"elementor-heading-title elementor-size-default\">with Becky<\/h2>\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-cf8db01 elementor-widget elementor-widget-text-editor\" data-id=\"cf8db01\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"text-editor.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<p dir=\"ltr\"><b>Warning: This episodes discusses the loss of a child due to a substance related death.<\/b><\/p><p dir=\"ltr\">When Becky\u2019s daughter Katie began struggling with substances, Becky was repeatedly told by friends, family and professionals to disconnect and let her hit rock bottom. Scared and confused, Becky reluctantly agreed, despite how painful and unnatural it felt. She eventually changed tactics and began rebuilding a relationship with Katie. And though Katie ultimately lost her life to substances, Becky\u2019s choice gave them both a chance to reconnect.<\/p><p dir=\"ltr\">On this episode of \u201cRethinking Rock Bottom,\u201d Becky shares with us how being connected to others allowed her to persist in connecting with her daughter, how she allowed herself to love herself and her daughter in spite of so much heartache, and how her connection with Katie lives on even through Katie\u2019s passing.<\/p><p dir=\"ltr\"><em><span style=\"font-family: var( --e-global-typography-9cc5612-font-family ), Sans-serif; font-size: var( --e-global-typography-9cc5612-font-size ); font-weight: var( --e-global-typography-9cc5612-font-weight ); letter-spacing: var( --e-global-typography-9cc5612-letter-spacing ); word-spacing: var( --e-global-typography-9cc5612-word-spacing ); text-align: var(--text-align); color: var( --e-global-color-e5bb67b );\">\u201cNothing may take away one\u2019s grief, as it is hoped nothing can take away one\u2019s love.\u201d<\/span><\/em><\/p>\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-c94fc67 elementor-widget-elementskit-dual-button-start elementor-widget elementor-widget-elementskit-dual-button\" data-id=\"c94fc67\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"elementskit-dual-button.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t<div class=\"ekit-wid-con\" >\n                <div class=\"ekit-element-align-wrapper\">\n                    <div class=\"ekit_double_button\">                <a class=\"ekit-double-btn ekit-double-btn-one\" href=\"https:\/\/podcasts.apple.com\/us\/podcast\/rethinking-rock-bottom\/id1709509368\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">\n                    APPLE PODCASTS                <\/a>\n            \n            <a class=\"ekit-double-btn ekit-double-btn-two\" href=\"https:\/\/open.spotify.com\/episode\/6PMvykXtYn0eTz1UZ6EW9Y?si=16b3545e7717451d\">\n                    SPOTIFY                <\/a>\n                  <\/div>\n                <\/div>\n            <\/div>\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/section>\n\t\t<section class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-b101a94 e-con-full e-flex e-con\" data-id=\"b101a94\" data-element_type=\"container\" data-settings=\"{&quot;background_background&quot;:&quot;classic&quot;,&quot;content_width&quot;:&quot;full&quot;}\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-fa8c87b elementor-widget__width-initial elementor-widget elementor-widget-image\" data-id=\"fa8c87b\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"image.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<a href=\"https:\/\/beyondaddictionworkbook.com\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"300\" height=\"300\" src=\"https:\/\/cmcffc.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/10\/FINAL-podcast-cover-300x300.jpg\" class=\"attachment-medium size-medium wp-image-16218\" alt=\"\" srcset=\"https:\/\/cmcffc.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/10\/FINAL-podcast-cover-300x300.jpg 300w, https:\/\/cmcffc.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/10\/FINAL-podcast-cover-1024x1024.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/cmcffc.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/10\/FINAL-podcast-cover-150x150.jpg 150w, https:\/\/cmcffc.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/10\/FINAL-podcast-cover-768x768.jpg 768w, https:\/\/cmcffc.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/10\/FINAL-podcast-cover-1536x1536.jpg 1536w, https:\/\/cmcffc.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/10\/FINAL-podcast-cover-2048x2048.jpg 2048w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/a>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-648b545 e-con-full e-flex e-con\" data-id=\"648b545\" data-element_type=\"container\" data-settings=\"{&quot;content_width&quot;:&quot;full&quot;}\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-013f21b elementor-widget elementor-widget-heading\" data-id=\"013f21b\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"heading.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t<h2 class=\"elementor-heading-title elementor-size-default\">Episode 4: Hitting the Pause Button<\/h2>\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-e70a992 elementor-widget elementor-widget-heading\" data-id=\"e70a992\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"heading.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t<h2 class=\"elementor-heading-title elementor-size-default\">with Dave and Tina<\/h2>\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-7c33d6d elementor-widget elementor-widget-text-editor\" data-id=\"7c33d6d\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"text-editor.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<p dir=\"ltr\"><em>\u201cWe can&#8217;t climb inside their heads and take over the controls and steer them away from their drugs, but we can be the reason they choose recovery.\u201d<\/em><\/p><p>This episode we speak with Dave and Tina, parents whose son, Craig, struggled with his mental health from a young age. As he got older, substances entered the picture as well.\u00a0<\/p><p>When Dave and Tina tried to help, they found themselves ping-ponging between worlds. Addiction providers told them that their son needed mental health support, while the mental health programs said he needed to treat his substance use issues first. All of this left Dave and Tina floundering as they desperately tried to help their son.<\/p><p>Dave and Tina eventually found a different approach (a combination of CRAFT and the ITC) which helped them learn communication skills and positive reinforcement strategies to help their son and keep their family connected.<\/p>\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-7c8189e elementor-widget-elementskit-dual-button-start elementor-widget elementor-widget-elementskit-dual-button\" data-id=\"7c8189e\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"elementskit-dual-button.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t<div class=\"ekit-wid-con\" >\n                <div class=\"ekit-element-align-wrapper\">\n                    <div class=\"ekit_double_button\">                <a class=\"ekit-double-btn ekit-double-btn-one\" href=\"https:\/\/podcasts.apple.com\/us\/podcast\/hitting-the-pause-button-dave-and-tina-learn-how\/id1709509368?i=1000641401857\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">\n                    APPLE PODCASTS                <\/a>\n            \n            <a class=\"ekit-double-btn ekit-double-btn-two\" href=\"https:\/\/open.spotify.com\/episode\/5SxjpQja8oQvTHTxwSQkU9?si=Apl1rfsXRX6kkIgF7GUlxg\">\n                    SPOTIFY                <\/a>\n                  <\/div>\n                <\/div>\n            <\/div>\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/section>\n\t\t<section class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-9a19e7f e-con-full e-flex e-con\" data-id=\"9a19e7f\" data-element_type=\"container\" data-settings=\"{&quot;background_background&quot;:&quot;classic&quot;,&quot;content_width&quot;:&quot;full&quot;}\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-08d9420 elementor-widget__width-initial elementor-widget elementor-widget-image\" data-id=\"08d9420\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"image.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<a href=\"https:\/\/beyondaddictionworkbook.com\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"300\" height=\"300\" src=\"https:\/\/cmcffc.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/10\/FINAL-podcast-cover-300x300.jpg\" class=\"attachment-medium size-medium wp-image-16218\" alt=\"\" srcset=\"https:\/\/cmcffc.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/10\/FINAL-podcast-cover-300x300.jpg 300w, https:\/\/cmcffc.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/10\/FINAL-podcast-cover-1024x1024.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/cmcffc.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/10\/FINAL-podcast-cover-150x150.jpg 150w, https:\/\/cmcffc.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/10\/FINAL-podcast-cover-768x768.jpg 768w, https:\/\/cmcffc.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/10\/FINAL-podcast-cover-1536x1536.jpg 1536w, https:\/\/cmcffc.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/10\/FINAL-podcast-cover-2048x2048.jpg 2048w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/a>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-1c6c551 e-con-full e-flex e-con\" data-id=\"1c6c551\" data-element_type=\"container\" data-settings=\"{&quot;content_width&quot;:&quot;full&quot;}\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-de861d8 elementor-widget elementor-widget-heading\" data-id=\"de861d8\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"heading.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t<h2 class=\"elementor-heading-title elementor-size-default\">Episode 5: Race and Substance Use<\/h2>\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-3ee7623 elementor-widget elementor-widget-heading\" data-id=\"3ee7623\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"heading.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t<h2 class=\"elementor-heading-title elementor-size-default\">with Felicia Pullen<\/h2>\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-d8c8f06 elementor-widget elementor-widget-text-editor\" data-id=\"d8c8f06\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"text-editor.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<p dir=\"ltr\"><em>\u201cWhen we start attending to our wounds, our need to self-medicate the pain lessens, and the healing can finally begin.\u201d<\/em><\/p><p>On this episode, we talk with Dr. Felecia Pullen, the founder, President, and CEO of Pillars and Let\u2019s Talk SAFETY, Inc.<\/p><p>In her life and work, Felecia encourages a view of substance use that acknowledges its complex realities, with overlapping lenses of race, class, culture, and systemic injustice. This conversation highlights the challenges people of color face in treatment and brings to light the very real and painful impact of systemic racism and generational trauma.<\/p><p>Race continues to be a blind spot in the treatment community, but acknowledging these issues is essential for effectively treating communities of color.<\/p>\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-799e2d4 elementor-widget-elementskit-dual-button-start elementor-widget elementor-widget-elementskit-dual-button\" data-id=\"799e2d4\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"elementskit-dual-button.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t<div class=\"ekit-wid-con\" >\n                <div class=\"ekit-element-align-wrapper\">\n                    <div class=\"ekit_double_button\">                <a class=\"ekit-double-btn ekit-double-btn-one\" href=\"https:\/\/podcasts.apple.com\/us\/podcast\/race-and-substance-use-one-harlem-raised-black-womans\/id1709509368?i=1000644732507\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">\n                    APPLE PODCASTS                <\/a>\n            \n            <a class=\"ekit-double-btn ekit-double-btn-two\" href=\"https:\/\/open.spotify.com\/episode\/79bAwJ9swYJvwHLdkgN6FA?si=193387a70d4c4037\">\n                    SPOTIFY                <\/a>\n                  <\/div>\n                <\/div>\n            <\/div>\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/section>\n\t\t<section class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-b054e17 e-con-full e-flex e-con\" data-id=\"b054e17\" data-element_type=\"container\" data-settings=\"{&quot;background_background&quot;:&quot;classic&quot;,&quot;content_width&quot;:&quot;full&quot;}\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-a90d10d elementor-widget__width-initial elementor-widget elementor-widget-image\" 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https:\/\/cmcffc.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/10\/FINAL-podcast-cover-2048x2048.jpg 2048w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/a>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-68fcf0e e-con-full e-flex e-con\" data-id=\"68fcf0e\" data-element_type=\"container\" data-settings=\"{&quot;content_width&quot;:&quot;full&quot;}\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-21e6a7c elementor-widget elementor-widget-heading\" data-id=\"21e6a7c\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"heading.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t<h2 class=\"elementor-heading-title elementor-size-default\">Episode 6: A Drive for Compassion<\/h2>\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-493c640 elementor-widget elementor-widget-heading\" data-id=\"493c640\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"heading.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t<h2 class=\"elementor-heading-title elementor-size-default\">with Jan and Carrie<\/h2>\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-4573245 elementor-widget elementor-widget-heading\" data-id=\"4573245\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"heading.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t<h3 class=\"elementor-heading-title elementor-size-default\">Now Available!<\/h3>\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-e2323dd elementor-widget elementor-widget-text-editor\" data-id=\"e2323dd\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"text-editor.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<p dir=\"ltr\"><em>\u201cWe are hopeful every day and are rewarded by seeing the people we work with make small daily changes and over time, deeply meaningful life changes.\u201d<\/em><\/p><p>Treatment providers spend significant amounts of time having vulnerable conversations with people but rarely share their own stories.<\/p><p>On this final episode of the first season of <em>Rethinking Rock Bottom<\/em>, hosts Dr. Carrie Wilkens and Reverend Jan M. Brown take the opportunity to share their own experiences and some of the personal reasons that they are so passionate about helping families heal. They each navigated very different paths that led to their work of helping people heal, and their deeply personal reasons keep them both motivated to do this important work.<\/p><p>Together they each share their journey to CMC:Foundation for Change, the struggles and realizations they encountered along the way, and how hope has led them to serving and supporting others as they navigate their own paths toward healing.<\/p>\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-afdb621 elementor-widget-elementskit-dual-button-start elementor-widget elementor-widget-elementskit-dual-button\" data-id=\"afdb621\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"elementskit-dual-button.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t<div class=\"ekit-wid-con\" >\n                <div class=\"ekit-element-align-wrapper\">\n                    <div class=\"ekit_double_button\">                <a class=\"ekit-double-btn ekit-double-btn-one\" href=\"https:\/\/podcasts.apple.com\/us\/podcast\/a-drive-for-compassion-jan-and-carrie-share-their\/id1709509368?i=1000648452371\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">\n                    APPLE PODCASTS                <\/a>\n            \n            <a class=\"ekit-double-btn ekit-double-btn-two\" href=\"https:\/\/open.spotify.com\/episode\/14VVe5wSXSMs5oStPfcNTL?si=3fd57f28fc0c4749\">\n                    SPOTIFY                <\/a>\n                  <\/div>\n                <\/div>\n            <\/div>\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/section>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>A New CMC:FFC Podcast Join hosts Dr. Carrie Wilkens and Rev. 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